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Today on Labs: “ecosocialism…. with a strong anti-colonial and anti-capitalist sentiment that moves beyond private profit to socially useful and ecocentric production. Digital ecosocialism is the extension of ecosocialist ideals into the digital realm. It is ICT that embeds the values of planetary stability, social equity and agency throughout the sector”. labs.ripe.net/author/neil-math by @neil

Nice article @neil 💚

And it introduced me the "Digital EcoSocialism" term I hadn't come across (longreads.tni.org/digital-ecos).

My sense is we need local groups that can support local digital needs within an understanding of this wider context.

I'm slowly brewing a sense of how to do this here, but takes a lot of connections to build up first I think.

@becha

@neil

And what I'd really like to avoid is an exclusive insular geek/hacker club that functions as an escape from society into an imagined world where geeks and hackers rule and everything would be amazing (it wouldn't).

So none of the "PEBKAC" and "luser" stuff.

@becha

@becha thanks! irrational.org is a parked godaddy domain, maybe a typo somewhere?

What potential do you see with community mesh networks out of interest?

In the next city over we had bristolwireless.net which used to run rooftop wireless stuff, but from their experience: "the rise of 4G mobile technology has resulted in reduced reliance on fixed broadband and home phones. One consequence of this is that fewer people are interested in networking in general."

@neil

@nick @neil “What potential do you see with community mesh networks?” 1) utopian 2) prepper 3) decentealising, countering power of BigTech 4) solidarity with *other* movements: local food coops, repair cafes, protests, free-shops, off the grid eco-villages , self-hosting servers…

@becha thanks!

I like all those things.

Where I am now I think there is little awareness or concern around the implications of technology choices, and anything alternative doesn't seem viable because everyone is on the normal platforms.

Its tough to break into...

@neil

@nick @becha Fully agree about supporting local needs.

I like some of the ideas around [[community wealth building]] and [[public-commons partnerships]] as applied to local digital, e.g. [[British Digital Cooperative]]. Also [[Technology Networks]] seems an interesting historical example of inclusive local groups.

@nick @becha My only real experience at the local level is the repair cafe.

In some ways seems easier to get a foothold than local digital platforms / networking infrastructure, as there's nothing locally that offers the same thing, often times (repair shops mostly vanished)

Local digital platforms seems a hard nut to crack, given how dominant global tech platforms are. Similar to networking infra. Though things like [[B4RN]] show it possible

basically wherever state/market hasn't provided

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