Nice episode of Science Vs. that breaks down the claims of that doctor on Joe Rogan's show, with citations. I'd heard most of what they said before, but it was nice to hear about the actual studies. They are dealing with the Spotify brouhaha by only publishing episodes debunking disinformation on the platform. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/49hngng/joe-rogan-the-malone-interview