I'm showing my kid how to use a typewriter and just twigged for the very first time why the number one and exclamation mark are on the same key and my mind is completely blown

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@phooky I always assumed they are on the same key since shift sets bit five and 1 is 0x21 while ! is 0x31 in ascii.

@phooky meanwhile 5-bit baudot has both 1 and !, although they are both in the FIGS space so they share encodings with Q and F in LTRS.

@ranjit @th thanks everyone, i just got an ad for a cloth mask printed with the seal of the "Official Field Research Team of the TWDB" (Typewriter Database), we did it

@th huh-- did erasure/delete actually do a backspace on these machines? wondering if you could have done the compound glyph thing on a teletype.

@th @phooky that's a great justification for why the shifted 2 symbol should be " (as on a UK keyboard) not @ as they do in the US.

holds for 3, 4, 5 as well, but oddly not 6

@dan but then how could we have endless discussions about how these discrepancies reflect upon the respective American and British National Characters™

@dan @phooky @th Yeah but ...

(Mechanical Teletype Model 35 ASR keyboard ... where that mattered a Lot.)

@elb @phooky @th asr33 slightly predates me :-) I wonder if the placement of & and ' was conventional for the time (if "conventional" was even a thing back in those days)
@elb @phooky @th oh hey, misread the model number. the 35 likewise

@dan @dan @elb @phooky the model 15 had a totally different layout that also mapped directly to its encoding social.v.st/@th/10975746046619

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